She said: "He came to public attention in the early 1950s when he was convicted of murdering an older couple. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. Sorry I doubled up on some of the above but cant edit it. 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She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Are you able to help please? The True Crime Files "Each case is reviewed periodically. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. Thank you Christine. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Positive reviews really help others find our show. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. And I also think there are likely more victims. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. On his way home, he passed Muriel as she walked along the path. It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was raped in Penllergaer Woods, beaten about the head with a blunt instrument and then shot with a World War I Colt 45 on 27 June 1946. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. He died at that address in 1971. taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. taken from Jones one and only child, a daughter. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). I contacted D.S. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. 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As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. I really appreciate your local insights. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. Hoyles lamented, For years, Ive lived with the knowledge that some people in the community suspected me. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. I contacted Detective Superintendent Martyn Lloyd-Evans (now retired) of South Wales Police by phone and had a friendly conversation with him about Victor Penalunas suspicions. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County Does his daughter have a son.? Evernote. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Play it now! Murder. Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. Interesting insights! profiling. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. Just put my name in Facebook bar. I informed D.C.I. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. 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Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. Hi Christine. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Norah Irene Bartlett. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Hi Neil. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. Paul says: "Muriel had almost made it to the home. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. Neil Milkins. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. There is no doubt about that.". That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. Regards. This was a very small, close knit community and everybody knew everybody and everybodies business. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. [16][17], In 2010, the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Council on National Records and Archives closed off public access to the case, acting at the behest of Scotland Yard. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. 2023 BBC. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Close. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. will do what you suggest. Another wait and see. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . true crime. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. And the truth will never be known. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. Hi Sherlock. They never recovered. Hi Neil. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. Also that they likely watched Muriel and knew her route. Their bodies were found buried in a Carmarthenshire kale field in 1953 you can read the full story here. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Well here is the TRUTH. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. Neil Milkins. Regards. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. The comments below have not been moderated. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. Request number 772/21. On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. Pinterest. She was shot twice in the chest. She was singing . I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Will do Christine. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. Thank you for the update. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. 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