SHIRES: Thank you so much. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. So she did daytime job. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. I am Terry Gross. Is that right? Were you in Texas at the time? Shes also one of the founders of the group The Highwomen. Its all control.. GROSS: Whoa. For my children, I did what I had to do. I want Garth Brooks out there telling people that womens health is a priority. GROSS: How did you end up actually playing in the Texas Playboys band? See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. And my hands are two empty cups. And I said, OK, well, Ill be the healer. Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Isbell stated the response he has received from people who work at the venues and in the music business has been positive because they understand we could go back to not working at all, adding that smaller venues might not be able to reopen if they go through another round of shutdowns. He has since learned to tell the story of his recovery. During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. Its not competition, Isbell makes clear with a chuckle. The Idol: How HBOs Next Euphoria Became Twisted Torture Porn And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. It is not trapped in your throat. You may opt-out by, U.S. And Milk Cow Blues goes like this. And we had a TV that wed watch, you know, Saturday Night Live on Saturdays. Im your Amanda. And I dont know. It makes it feel like youre tough enough for the fight, all the way down to your bones. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. SHIRES: But some of the words are funny. When do you show him the songs? Roberta Shorrock directs the show. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. Interracial marriages cant happen. Privacy rights are going to be gone. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. Here was my life five years ago, and heres my life now. She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. SHIRES: We were writing that, and Brandi was like, Im going to take the first one. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. And we would be quiet so that she wouldnt get in trouble because it was a lot then to be a single mom and deal with the difference in pay for men versus women. You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. SHIRES: I found that out for Christmas, Jasons merchandise guy, Chance, gave us each our family trees. Then Im like, This is coming out now., Jason Isbell on the Art of the Livestream, Supporting Indie Record Stores, and That Feral Hogs Meme, Devon Gilfillian to Cover Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' With Jason Isbell, Grace Potter, Jason Isbell Blasts Van Morrison, Covers 'Into the Mystic'. Michael Schmelling. We want to hear it. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud, If you say those things out loud, it makes a difference. SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. Musician Adia Victoria also tweeted at Isbell and praised the artist for continuing to put the health and safety ofhis crew, my band, venue employees and fans first and foremost, to which he replied with three heart emojis. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. I accept it now. It was Fault Lines.. And I save them all and I return to them often I own one of his guitars My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. And he said, try playing this one. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. Theres still just as much awe.. Learn more about his tour. What does that phrase mean to you? And there was a guy that also played the guitar, like a multi-instrumentalist side person. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. Weve had legal abortions for 50 years and now, suddenly, a long-held right will be illegal. Editors picks And I said, Id love to. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. 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After Isbell announced last week that he would require enhanced Covid countermeasures at his show in Austin, Texas, singer-songwriter Marc Broussard took to Twitter to lash out at Isbell, calling him bourgeois and elitist. Broussard asserted, Some working-class fans cant afford the risks associated with either the vaccines or even getting a test, adding, Id rather quit music than become a pawn in the pressure campaign. He did not provide any evidence of the risks he claimed were associated with getting the jab or receiving a test. And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. Well be right back. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. And she came over and I showed her. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. Ive been around so many people for so long who were. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. What didnt I say that could have helped change one mind? I cant live with the idea of not speaking up. How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. GROSS: You forced yourself in the position of having him hear you play? Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Boosted and very grateful for it., When a fan asked how his wife Amanda Shires and their daughter are feeling, Isbell answered, Mercy is negative with no symptoms and Amanda didnt come with me on this run, shes negative at home. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. Just admit Im what you want. GROSS: OK. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. And the reason I think that my grandmother knew is because also lately, we found out that my moms oldest sister isnt doesnt have the same dad as her, as my granddad. Recognition has been building steadily; he won Song of the Year at the 2012 Americana Honors and Awards at the Ryman Auditorium last September for Alabama Pines. He calls his superb backing band the 400 Unit, after the psychiatric ward of a hospital near Muscle Shoals, the part of the state where he grew up. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. And we met. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. Then I get to the end of the recording process and try to decide what makes the best collection of songs. Girls high school basketball team forfeits a game because it refused to play against a team with a transgender player, Fox Leaders Wanted to Break From Trump but Struggled to Make It Happen, Not Going to Read That: White House Press Secretary Brushes Off DeSantis Op-Ed, Sunshine returns to SoCal on Thursday but cold temps stick around, AccuWeather: AM showers before a mild afternoon, Opening arguments heard in court for 2020 Conway fatal shooting that killed a 19-year-old. And he married my grandmother. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. When I wrote my first piece for Rolling Stone, Id had an abortion before. I know the cost of flight is landing. It rings out like its supposed to. Amanda Shires has become a coveted presence at the intersection of nervy artistry and activism, folk and country acclaim, rock attitude and Nashville influence. I got up to sing, and I was like, oh, crap. SHIRES: But I like it because I like to imagine like, if he was alive and I got to play this for him, I would be singing Im your Amanda. But, yeah, after a while thinking about it, I got more comfortable with it. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. SHIRES: (Singing) Trying not to think of names. Shires has released seven solo albums starting in 2005, her most recent being Take It Like a Man in 2022. Despite the many questions as to why she was undergoing the procedure which she described as having "cells removed" despite trolls labeling her a "baby killer" Shires wrote at the time, "The reasons that I chose to have an abortion are personal, and they are mine." It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. And I also want to thank Zack Sedgefield for playing guitar and also Diana Walsh, who engineered your end of the music and the conversation from your home studio in well, outside of Nashville. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. You can keep the car and the house. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. Thats abundantly clear on his breakout new album, Southeastern, one of the years best in any genre. The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time You know, like, how does that go? SHIRES: I forced myself in that position. And I thought if Im going to get any rest, Im going to have to do something about this. GROSS: So one of the ways you ended up becoming a songwriter as well as a singer and musician was that Billy Joe Shaver heard you play. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. The players in the band, they took me seriously as a player, but they also understood that I was a kid.. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. It seems like a simple thing to say, but its really true. These really arent personal. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. I didnt start learning how to accept my voice until recently. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. I got to a certain age and realized I couldnt be Indiana Jones.. And I was really into that. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. Thank you for your songs. I had people threatening me. SHIRES: I began writing that song when I did the record My Piece Of Land a long while back. I still miss the way you lean in. What made you think of yourself as his disciple? Im glad to hear it. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. I heard witchcraft in the whispers and I knew my time had come. I guess for awhile youve been looking for the exit. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? A kid, that was that parts a secret, Terry played the part breakthrough. 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