Went to the range immediately. MacGregor jettisoned MacTec, revived the MT irons and intended to resurrect the VIP line in '09. Standard is subjectivebut I think it would go like this: Lengths were listed. 4 wood - 19 degree - 42" [/quote] An expensive venture, but a true passion, Jack sold MacGregor to Amer Group. quite simply the best clubs i have ever owned or hit. The sand ran out of MacGregors hourglass in 2010. The iron itself says forged but the face is two-millimeter-thin MS300 steel. The MT irons are in the dead center of the offerings, providing "game improvement" qualities for mid handicap players, and "player" features for low handicappers. This is my 3rd year of golf now and my game has become much more consistant. The Great Depression forced MacGregor near bankruptcy, and was forced to sell to Goldsmith. Yeah, I know. Wilon specs were: M85's. I bring em with the old blades and hit the blades mostly. They got passed down to me, then to my brothers (one of whom lost the 9 iron). var ins = document.createElement('ins'); It offers fair forgiveness without totally throwing away feel and workability. Matched them up with some Oil Hardened Tommy woods and a Ironmaster IMG putter. etc etc. Tourney MT (cavity back) 2000-01. By Golf Monthly. Then the economy tanked. For the armchair cynic, the new MacGregor seems like just another nostalgia grab offering nothing of consequence. Driver: PING 410 Plus 9 degrees, Alta CB55 SFairway: Callaway Rogue 3W PX Even Flow Blue 6.0; Hybrid: Titleist 818H1 21* PX Even Flow Blue 6.0;Irons: Titleist 718 AP1 5-W2(53*) Shafts-TT AMT Red S300;WedgesVokey SM856-10DPutter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2.5Ball:Titleist AVX or 2021 ProV1. Might be worth testing them out. Clear editor. I still have my old woods in the closet (PGA Tommy Armours from the late 70's and a set of Golfcraft Dick Mayers from the 50's) but I'd be too scared to actually hit balls with them ever again. And they''re priced right. MacGregor Tourney MT Irons DESCRIPTION Made from 304 stainless steel. They have a Tour-ready design with a player's preferred, versatile look at address. Powerbilt specs were: Because its old driver tech? Long approaches ending up chunked twenty yards? My father-in-law gave me a set of MTs he struggled with for 4 years, I struggled with them for a few years. CLEEK 41 1/2 The MT86 irons are the stars of the MacGregor lineup. 151/2. [quote name='PKMillerJr' timestamp='1323699792' post='3927435'] MacGregor Golf DX Carbon Steel Iron Set, Mens Right Hand, 4-PW. You are correct on the lengths. China can stamp out a club for a few bucks a head if youre not looking for the latest and greatest. Interesting 1/2" all the way to the 9 and then no change. 2 Wood 42 7/8ths The information you continue to provide us here as well as other sections of the forum are invalueable and very much appreciated. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. "@type": "Article", 381/2. [quote name='astamm8' timestamp='1323739872' post='3930691'] One copper faced Colokroms and one set of Rec. Just my opinion so no haters please. Designed for low to mid handicappers the MT irons combine a forged face which is welded to the sole and body. have been a result of the swingweighting process when it started in the 1930s (in general). +1. I will look at my info and see what is listed for the DS. Hope this helps some. VINTAGE MacGregor MT Tourney RH Irons. After careful reasearch via Golf Clubtest 2001 reviews, reviews on here and demos I decided to give the Macgregors a shot. Some facts about the Tourney MT tours they come with Dynamic Gold shafts (quality) golf pride tour velvet grips (quality) and first rate fit and finish (I have played a lot of golf with them and they still look almost new they have held up way, way better than either of my previous 3 sets of clubs). However feature greater forgiveness (and a MUCH lower price tag) than their forged brothers. V-Foil 350cc Optimal Launch. lo.observe(document.getElementById(slotId + '-asloaded'), { attributes: true });var cid = '8101177642'; MacGregor did post club lengths in their catalogs - but only The quality and attention to detail are evident in both packaging and the end product. The only things missing are the MacGregor script on the sole and the diamonds framing the score lines on the face. I''ve had these for about two years now and bought them new then by luck for what they go for now if you can find them. this changed with the 9 iron - 9 iron, PW & SW same length, Other Web Sites in the ConsumerReview Network: mtbr.com | Just past70 years,playing Mizuno MP 57 Irons with UST 660 F3 shafts. Will they be included in your testing as well? Tourney VIP V-FOIL (cavity) 2002-03. 181/2 My father talked my wife into buying me a set of Tourney blades forged in 1963. container.style.maxWidth = container.style.minWidth + 'px'; Moisture is a greater enemy than golf balls. 2-20* This purchase was mostly made because the owners and operators of Wickes were big time golf fans. Interesting 1/2" all the way to the 9 and then no change. We were clear that we wanted to respect and honor the. The new VIP iron would appear to measure up to the old standards - they are forged of 1025 carbon steel and feature top notch KBS Tour shafts, but upon closer inspection I can see that this isn't the MacGregor of old. container.style.maxHeight = container.style.minHeight + 'px'; Good to see them back. [/quote]. The main feature of this set of irons is the Powersole design which is a wide sole that is the same thickness throughout the set. Ideally Mid 50s to early 60s. M85 forged w/ T. T. Tourney regular flex shafts. You know - speaking of the 1/2" increment progressive length change in iron clubs - I think this may $249.99 - $289.99. SPECS FOR. As I recall from the old days I was told that hitting surlyn/solid balls with woods would destroy the inserts, or the faces if there was no insert. Nummer 6 - 2017; Nummer 5 - 2017; Nummer 4 - 2017; Nummer 3 - 2017; Nummer 2 - 2017 Fred, [quote name='freddiec' timestamp='1323882778' post='3938581'] I play a laminated maple 4 wood (Ram Investor II) that has been in my bag for 20 years-and in my grandfathers bag for probably about 20 years before that-and I have had no issues with modern balls (range balls or otherwise). Well I got frustrated so honey pie un boxes1985 Mac Gregor M85 copper faced irons of old and guess what, i started playing good. AT2W FOR 1961 Re: I VIP Oversize CB95 1995-97. Wickes was forced to sell the company to one of their staffers. In general (for standard men) for 1950s - Driver - 11 degree - 43" 2 wood - 13 degree - 42 3/4" 3 wood - 16 degree - 42 1/2" BRASSIE. ping eye 2 [/quote] For many years, MacGregor was unable to keep up with the innovation and marketing seen by Titleist, Callaway, and TaylorMade. By the 1920s MacGregor committed to just golf, and had record breaking years mass producing golf clubs. The beginning of the end was when Jack Nicklaus got into golf course design. When you cant sell these irons for 50% of what you paid for them less than a year after release, youd better hope they do something other than trigger carefully calculated boomer nostalgia. The new MacGregor MT86 irons premiered on the MacGregor website during the PGA Show. I'm glad I did. CHARLEY PENNA It's always fun to see what people were playing 30 years ago. The MT Mid-size irons come fitted as standard with a quality FEMCO Multi-Taper steel shaft and comes in A, R and S flex options. Im curious to know the difference between the two. 53. None other than Jack Nicklaus. [/quote] Sign up for a new account in our community. I probably own 18 sets of these vintage beauties. Those clubs, which originally went for $225 a set, now sell for up to $1,000. I checked several trading websites, including second swing and the PGA value guide. Im very lucky to have a great relationship with Ian Woosnam, says Millington of the Welshman, former world No. Our expert reviewers spend hours testing and comparing products and services so you can choose the best for you. Does this mean that the Japanese side of MacGregor has been cleared up??? #163961. So who cares right? Good news is the 55+ folks have lots of $$ to spend on sticks! The new MT86 irons wont qualify as revolutionary but theres more to them than just the name and logo. I first met Rollinson on the driving range at Pinehurst just over a year ago. The undercut cavity lowers the weight and moves the centre of gravity forward to help control the ball and a slight offset and wide sole help provide forgiveness. MT Tungsten. The hardest part was getting the old tape off. I believe that the first VIP's come on to the marketwas in about 1968 after Jack Nicklaus was signed by MacGregor and had a few wins under his belt. These specs were PowerBilts for sure (maybe with the exception of the SW). with the advent of Slick. That''s a lot of club for the money. [quote name='xgolfx' timestamp='1323752931' post='3931773'] The new MacGregor MT86 irons are a throwback to the brands Golden Age. Macgregor dumped these clubs after a short couple years. Yes - 9 iron, PW and SW were all 35" at one point - and not just MacGregor. . I got a teriffic deal on the set thru wholesalegolfequipment.com Well I was absolutely happy with with this choice! If they crack it wouldn't be a big loss. This iron features a new weight distribution that strategically places more weight lower and towards the heel and toe. [quote name='rex235' timestamp='1323877773' post='3938175'] As my golf swing has improved I have been able to experience more of what a golf club can feel like, and let me tell you - the sweet feel of my Tourney MT tours has me whipped. Blue Steel Vokey, Sim2 Ti 3 wood head, Diamana TB 60tx, PXG Gen 5 0311 XF - 4 wood and 4 Hybrid (Heads only), Cleveland RTX 6 set and Mizuno 225 pro 4 iron, PXG Gen 3 0311p 7-gw and 0311 XP 6-7 Irons (heads only) Near Mint , Tour Issue Callaway Gear!!! MacGregor did post club lengths in their catalogs - but only Lately I've been watching a lot of MrShortGame, but I also like Rick Shiels quite a bit. I bought a set with graphite shafts (slow swing I have) off ebay - in fantastic condition. U ain't seen NUTIN yet! i doubt you will find lofts in print anywhere. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! ins.dataset.adChannel = cid; I tried to trade them in for some new irons in the mid 90s and the place I tried to trade them in with said no thanks for blades, Eventually sold the whole set, 2-P to a coworker for 50$ so he could have a spare set for visitors. They both are hollow body but blade style irons. astamm8: Nothing worse than a neck crack, I fought one of those in my favorite driver for years. 43" (some 2018. Wilon specs were: My swing is decent but not perfect. He is now a freelance journalist writing mainly for Golf Monthly across the whole spectrum from courses and Rules to equipment and instruction. You cant have everything, I guess. Iron Specifications The following iron specification information has been compiled from product brochures, golf magazines, and from inquiries to the manufacturers. [/quote] I havent really heard anyone under the age of 40 remotely excited for MacGregor/RAM/Zebra/Whatever-Other-Brand-Zombie was being revived at the PGA Show this year. This wide sole ensures a. I hope they can get a foot hold of some sort in the market. 2 wood - 13 degree - 42 3/4" Missing greens and losing distance? 43. Paired with the correct shaft. I acquired a set of Macgregor M75 Tourney irons and MT Tourney woods that have LTWA stamped on the bottoms. Just about everything there looked pretty good. i snapped some shafts (my fault, hitting off mats)macgregor sent me a replacment club VERY quickly. Wasn't there a standard that was common and it was more of a special order to get away from that? Reliance Oversize. great look and feel, feedback was perfecti will miss Macgregor!! And I gotta say: It feels really good to be able to write that sentence. in Golf Talk. DS stood for Dirt & Sand. I'm hoping Charley chimes in! NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Retro may be cool but performance is what countsas does marketplace mindshare. | Sitemap, MacGregor Golf MacTec X Hybrid, Adjustable Loft, Mens Right Hand, MacGregor Golf VIP Iron Set 4-PW, Mens Right Hand, MacGregor Golf DX Carbon Steel Iron Set, Mens Right Hand, 4-PW, MacGregor Golf Wizard Full Hybrid Iron Set, Mens Right Hand, MacGregor MT-86 OS Irons (4-PW) HEADS ONLY, MacGregor MT-86 Pro Irons (4-PW) (Custom Fit). You are correct on the lengths. According to the laws of physics, the Big Berthas are easier to hit, but due to the mental impact looking down at those huge oversized club heads had on me, I was unable to hit them nearly as well as my standard size MacGregor MT tours. August 13, 2014 in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting. People would have come up and gone, Uhhhh, its just another old brand, as opposed to, Oh, this is really nice.. SPOON42. 1960: Tommy Armour SS1: The new MacGregor MT86 irons are his work. The saga continued as I was given the opportunity to replace them with a set of Mizuno T Zoid Sures. He also ran Callaways Design Studio and was responsible for iterations of the Great Big Bertha, the X-16 and X-18 irons, the Steelhead woods and irons and several Callaway-era Ben Hogan forgings. TECH SPECS - Low and backwards center of gravity to punch the ball airborne. We believe we have the best packaged sets on the market at those prices.. If the average club golfer went to his pro to order a set of SS2 irons 1-9 and 11, did he always individually select lofts? Great job MacGregor for such a quality product. I had no problem dropping balls onto the green from 125 yds out. Are you in the market for a new driver? The signature diamond-shaped muscle is a homage to the original 1950 MT irons designed by Toney Penna. That's a big jump for a similar iron. StarFleetGolfer This larger headed member of the MT series is an impressive addition to the fantastic Pro-M and Pro-C sets we tested in the May edition of Golf Monthly. You know - speaking of the 1/2" increment progressive length change in iron clubs - I think this may Is it only cosmetic difference? have been a result of the swingweighting process when it started in the 1930s (in general). [quote name='PKMillerJr' timestamp='1323836999' post='3936647'] Young players today like challenge of trying to hit the MT's 2 iron. 3 piece special on Amazon. [quote name='astamm8' timestamp='1323836672' post='3936623'] Many of the Macs from the 60's and early 70's are less than $100, and the remakes from the late 70's and 80's are often less than $50 unless absolutely mint. Clubs made during this time, such as the MT irons and Eye-O-Matic woods have tech that is still used in clubs today. His knowledge and experience were fantastic, says Millington. He was a gentleman to work with and was first class in everything he did., Millingtons golf background is in retail and in golf course management. Heritage by Nicklaus 1990-93. USER REVIEWS Next 10 Showing 1-10 of 41 [Jun 17, 2017] Ken Henderson These midsize feel a little smaller than my old CP2 midsize, but with more texture, I think I will be Ok with them. Neither irons topline qualifies as a butter knife, however. 43. var ins = document.createElement('ins'); Lie. ins.style.minWidth = container.attributes.ezaw.value + 'px'; MS300 is a high-grade maraging steel often used in metalwoods. (nearly as soft as forged carbon) the MT offers similar feel and response to McGregor's handcrafted forged irons. I have a set of the macgregor pro forged mt tourney irons. Jack won two more majors while owner, and managed to release amazing clubs such as the oversized CG1800 irons, and the famous Response ZT putter. Back to the high quality clubs of yesteryear. Only 2 shaft choices a graphite and steel. CG1800CS 1988-91. 1961. Its easy to say no to that question. With a golf department store making MacGregor an exclusive store brand, the end was near. But these margins I am talking about are very small. I think clubs may have been made back then for the Yes, these off brand clubs will definitely be harder to sell in the secondary market, such as eBay. However feature greater forgiveness (and a MUCH lower price tag) than their forged brothers. [quote name='astamm8' timestamp='1323739872' post='3930691'] THANKS ins.dataset.adClient = pid; 14. TOMMY ARMOUR. Jack Nicklaus broke a lot of face inserts and his primary driver used through about '86 was repaired many times, and this using balata. 38 1/2" (some models 39" and I played the MacGregor MT (1972) "flatsole" irons from 1974 to 1994. Then to my brothers ( one of whom lost the 9 and then no change MT86. 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